Thx for the explanation Phoenix.
Although your motivations are very noble, and I did understand them from the get-go, I still say that the best way to build a community is to coach its members regardless(and even more so for the "weaker elements") of rank or "group".
I believe in coaching the community as a whole much more than just coaching a select group of individuals. I will state as an example a former member of the L2J dev team: Fulminus.
He had a way of turning any code submitted or question asked into a tutorial for the whole community to learn from, this in effect was creating a "buzz" and getting people, no matter their level of knowledge or experience, to want to learn more. This is what I meant with my comment. I believe(and we can agree to disagree on this, I have alot of respect for you) that this is the better way to go if you want to increase the level of quality of the contributions in general. I am not actively developing for L2J/*fork* anymore, I'm... lets say... semi-retired from mmo development and working on other personal projects now(still java-related, not to worry
) so this comment is meant to better this community as a whole, who gave me alot in the past. I believe in leading by example and I hope that you guys will stop this "segregation nonsense"(still my personal opinion, please dont feel offended) and focus on the community as a whole. As you know, this is why *fork* got started in the first place... we left the L2J community because we felt that there were "select groups" of people who did their own thing and we didnt fit in, what you're doing now is just adding one more layer of "select people". Anyway, this was my ranting for today
at least you're trying something... maybe you'll prove me wrong.
About the "There is something called REAL LIFE that many dont know yet" comment regarding what I said about Lecter never showing up...
There is a difference between having a real life and never even bothering to say hello to the tons of people who contribute to your project. I know very well that he's present on your private(dev-only) forums, but he never even comes to show sign of life on the regular forums. I think this is very ego-centric on his part... no one is so "high and mighty" that he is above saying "hi" or "thank you" to the people who help his project on a daily basis. From my point of vue, it looks as if he thinks that all the contributors on his forum are "lower life forms" and that he'll talk only to the select few who he chooses to be part of his team. In other words BigBoss, please mind your own business if you're going to talk through your [I think I cant say this word here...].
What's the deal with the "Inner Circle"? When will you(Lecter) learn that it's not by creating a sealed hierarchy that we make projects move forward? With a team about 1/2 the size of your "official team" we managed to create an emulator much more complete and much more efficient than L2J, you know why? because we consider our members as all equals! everyone has a voice, everyone has a right to make mistakes as long as he/she learns from them, everyone learns from everyone else. It's not by doing everything important behind closed doors that you'll better your project, but by opening yourself up to the community, because they are the future of your project, not you or your team, the community as a whole is the future of L2J.