[Question] CPU

[qwerty13]

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processor       : 0vendor_id       : GenuineIntelcpu family      : 6model           : 15model name      : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU           E5345  @ 2.33GHzstepping        : 7cpu MHz         : 2332.901cache size      : 4096 KBphysical id     : 0siblings        : 4core id         : 0cpu cores       : 4apicid          : 0initial apicid  : 0fpu             : yesfpu_exception   : yescpuid level     : 10wp              : yesflags           : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm dca lahf_lm tpr_shadowbogomips        : 4665.80clflush size    : 64cache_alignment : 64address sizes   : 36 bits physical, 48 bits virtualpower management: processor       : 1vendor_id       : GenuineIntelcpu family      : 6model           : 15model name      : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU           E5345  @ 2.33GHzstepping        : 7cpu MHz         : 2332.901cache size      : 4096 KBphysical id     : 0siblings        : 4core id         : 1cpu cores       : 4apicid          : 1initial apicid  : 1fpu             : yesfpu_exception   : yescpuid level     : 10wp              : yesflags           : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm dca lahf_lm tpr_shadowbogomips        : 4666.79clflush size    : 64cache_alignment : 64address sizes   : 36 bits physical, 48 bits virtualpower management: processor       : 2vendor_id       : GenuineIntelcpu family      : 6model           : 15model name      : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU           E5345  @ 2.33GHzstepping        : 7cpu MHz         : 2332.901cache size      : 4096 KBphysical id     : 0siblings        : 4core id         : 2cpu cores       : 4apicid          : 2initial apicid  : 2fpu             : yesfpu_exception   : yescpuid level     : 10wp              : yesflags           : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm dca lahf_lm tpr_shadowbogomips        : 4666.80clflush size    : 64cache_alignment : 64address sizes   : 36 bits physical, 48 bits virtualpower management: processor       : 3vendor_id       : GenuineIntelcpu family      : 6model           : 15model name      : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU           E5345  @ 2.33GHzstepping        : 7cpu MHz         : 2332.901cache size      : 4096 KBphysical id     : 0siblings        : 4core id         : 3cpu cores       : 4apicid          : 3initial apicid  : 3fpu             : yesfpu_exception   : yescpuid level     : 10wp              : yesflags           : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm dca lahf_lm tpr_shadowbogomips        : 4666.79clflush size    : 64cache_alignment : 64address sizes   : 36 bits physical, 48 bits virtualpower management: 

[badboy29]

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processor   : 0vendor_id   : GenuineIntelcpu family  : 6model       : 26model name  : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU           E5520  @ 2.27GHzstepping    : 5cpu MHz     : 2261.000cache size  : 8192 KBphysical id : 1siblings    : 8core id     : 0cpu cores   : 4apicid      : 16initial apicid  : 16fpu     : yesfpu_exception   : yescpuid level : 11wp      : yesflags       : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx rdtscp lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good xtopology pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm dca sse4_1 sse4_2 lahf_lm tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority ept vpidbogomips    : 4521.35clflush size    : 64cache_alignment : 64address sizes   : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtualpower management: processor   : 1vendor_id   : GenuineIntelcpu family  : 6model       : 26model name  : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU           E5520  @ 2.27GHzstepping    : 5cpu MHz     : 2261.000cache size  : 8192 KBphysical id : 0siblings    : 8core id     : 0cpu cores   : 4apicid      : 0initial apicid  : 0fpu     : yesfpu_exception   : yescpuid level : 11wp      : yesflags       : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx rdtscp lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good xtopology pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm dca sse4_1 sse4_2 lahf_lm tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority ept vpidbogomips    : 4521.98clflush size    : 64cache_alignment : 64address sizes   : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtualpower management: processor   : 2vendor_id   : GenuineIntelcpu family  : 6model       : 26model name  : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU           E5520  @ 2.27GHzstepping    : 5cpu MHz     : 2261.000cache size  : 8192 KBphysical id : 1siblings    : 8core id     : 1cpu cores   : 4apicid      : 18initial apicid  : 18fpu     : yesfpu_exception   : yescpuid level : 11wp      : yesflags       : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx rdtscp lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good xtopology pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm dca sse4_1 sse4_2 lahf_lm tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority ept vpidbogomips    : 4521.98clflush size    : 64cache_alignment : 64address sizes   : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtualpower management: processor   : 3vendor_id   : GenuineIntelcpu family  : 6model       : 26model name  : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU           E5520  @ 2.27GHzstepping    : 5cpu MHz     : 2261.000cache size  : 8192 KBphysical id : 0siblings    : 8core id     : 1cpu cores   : 4apicid      : 2initial apicid  : 2fpu     : yesfpu_exception   : yescpuid level : 11wp      : yesflags       : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx rdtscp lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good xtopology pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm dca sse4_1 sse4_2 lahf_lm tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority ept vpidbogomips    : 4521.98clflush size    : 64cache_alignment : 64address sizes   : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtualpower management: processor   : 4vendor_id   : GenuineIntelcpu family  : 6model       : 26model name  : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU           E5520  @ 2.27GHzstepping    : 5cpu MHz     : 2261.000cache size  : 8192 KBphysical id : 1siblings    : 8core id     : 2cpu cores   : 4apicid      : 20initial apicid  : 20fpu     : yesfpu_exception   : yescpuid level : 11wp      : yesflags       : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx rdtscp lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good xtopology pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm dca sse4_1 sse4_2 lahf_lm tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority ept vpidbogomips    : 4521.99clflush size    : 64cache_alignment : 64address sizes   : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtualpower management:  

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Cpu0  :  3.0%us,  1.7%sy,  0.0%ni, 92.7%id,  0.0%wa,  1.3%hi,  1.3%si,  0.0%stCpu1  :  5.6%us,  2.6%sy,  0.0%ni, 91.8%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%stCpu2  :  3.3%us,  2.3%sy,  0.0%ni, 94.4%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%stCpu3  :  2.6%us,  2.3%sy,  0.0%ni, 95.1%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%stCpu4  :  4.7%us,  2.5%sy,  0.0%ni, 92.7%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%stCpu5  :  6.1%us,  1.6%sy,  0.0%ni, 92.3%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%stCpu6  :  3.5%us,  1.9%sy,  0.0%ni, 94.5%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%stCpu7  :  4.1%us,  2.5%sy,  0.0%ni, 93.4%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%stCpu8  :  4.2%us,  1.3%sy,  0.0%ni, 94.6%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%stCpu9  :  2.0%us,  0.7%sy,  0.0%ni, 97.4%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%stCpu10 :  4.5%us,  1.3%sy,  0.0%ni, 94.2%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%stCpu11 :  4.1%us,  3.4%sy,  0.0%ni, 92.5%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%stCpu12 :  2.3%us,  1.6%sy,  0.0%ni, 96.1%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%stCpu13 :  3.0%us,  4.0%sy,  0.0%ni, 93.0%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%stCpu14 :  2.3%us,  2.3%sy,  0.0%ni, 95.5%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%stCpu15 :  2.2%us,  4.7%sy,  0.0%ni, 92.8%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.3%si,  0.0%st 

[brutus]

what are those?

[jurchiks]

I don't get the reason as to why did you post all that wall of text...
could have just said "I have dual Intel quad core E5520"

[brutus]

if i had money for xeon i would not ask here lol think abit before posting i dont care if u have a dedi with xeon processor (socket 1366)that costs 350 euro.. omg

[qwerty13]

I don't get the reason as to why did you post all that wall of text...
could have just said "I have dual Intel quad core E5520"

This is a checking: who have a bigger penis. So just relax and watch.
By the way, this is offtopic.

[brutus]

i checked the website and i saw that my i3 with dual cpu has 4 threads too same as 4 cores.. so i have to choose quad core AMD or dual core Intel with hyper threading ..since the mhz isnt important and we have the same thread amount i think the intel is better?

and btw its not off-topic its " If something doesnt fit in any other forum then post it here. " read abit

[qwerty13]

Intel.

[ThePhoenixBird]

i checked the website and i saw that my i3 with dual cpu has 4 threads too same as 4 cores.. so i have to choose quad core AMD or dual core Intel with hyper threading ..since the mhz isnt important and we have the same thread amount i think the intel is better?

and btw its not off-topic its " If something doesnt fit in any other forum then post it here. " read abit

You should go for a AMD Phenom II that fits your budget, also AMD3 socket is compatible with future releases.

[poltomb]

i checked the website and i saw that my i3 with dual cpu has 4 threads too same as 4 cores.. so i have to choose quad core AMD or dual core Intel with hyper threading ..since the mhz isnt important and we have the same thread amount i think the intel is better?

and btw its not off-topic its " If something doesnt fit in any other forum then post it here. " read abit

You should go for a AMD Phenom II that fits your budget, also AMD3 socket is compatible with future releases.

TPB is right. When a processor is a dual core with HT, the two threads share a single processor core (essentially causing each thread to use only half the processing power of that core.

Dual Core 2.0 GHz w/ HT:
2.0 GHz per core / 2 threads per core = 1.0 GHz per thread.
1.0 GHz per thread * 4 threads total = 4.0 GHz effective processor speed.

Quad Core 2.0 GHz (No HT):
2.0 Ghz per core / 1 thread per core = 2.0 GHz per thread.
2.0 GHz per thread * 4 threads total = 8.0 GHz effective processor speed.

This is a very rough calculation. As JIV said, it depends on what part of each core is being used so this is +/- a bit.

[brutus]

the machine will lbe used for workstation after we reach 150-200 people then i will move them on dedicated server so do i rly need that AMD quad core ? as i know AMD isnt stable as INTEL and since i need something stable i think the intel will be better or maybe not?

[ThePhoenixBird]

as i know AMD isnt stable as INTEL

Lies, read recent CPU reviews about AMD Phenom II X4, those beasts have nothing to envy to Intel chips (im a Intel owner and i approve AMD cpus)

[Stake]

I just like Intel Xeon's QPI interface. Each processor core has an interconnection to memory, and to one of the hubs (northbridge and southbridge) the processor connects via QPI, and the two hubs are connected via DMI. For servers, RAM and processor speed are the most significant. I would recommend Intel Xeon 3500 series. W3520, the cheapest of them costs about 280 euros.

i7 is for games because of cheap prices and high clock speeds.

[brutus]

i am trying to do a configuration(pc) for up to 550-600 Euro...which one should i prefer

Box : Cooler Master HAF 932
Ram : Corsair CMX4GX3M1A1333C9 4GB DDR3 1333
HDD : Seagate BARRACUDA 500GB 7200 16MB



CPU : AMD Phenom II X4 965 3.40 GHz Black Edition
MOTHERBOARD : Asus M4A89GTD PRO/USB3
SUPPLY : Cooler Master eXtreme Power Plus 500W

or

CPU : Intel Core-i5 660 3.33 GHz
MOTHERBOARD : Asus P7H57D-V EVO
SUPPLY : 400W(a cheap supply from my old pc)

i would choose i5 -760(whichi s quad core) but since it doesn't support graphics i will need to buy graphic card too that means a better supply (500w for example).. so that goes out of my range


i think that for AMD processor 400W is rly low thats why i chose 500W

if you have a better conf please post it here(to fit the budget)

[ThePhoenixBird]

Box : Cooler Master HAF 932
Ram : Corsair CMX4GX3M1A1333C9 4GB DDR3 1333
HDD : Seagate BARRACUDA 500GB 7200 16MB
CPU : AMD Phenom II X4 965 3.40 GHz Black Edition
MOTHERBOARD : Asus M4A89GTD PRO/USB3
SUPPLY : Cooler Master eXtreme Power Plus 500W

Save a bit more on Box, use whatever is cheap around.

Motherboard: Gigabyte Socket AM3/AMD 890GX/SATA3&USB3.0/A&V&GbE/ATX Motherboard GA-890GPA-UD3H

Yo do not need a Graphic Card, its haves integrated graphics using the new AMD Chip, and its not a crappy one, its one of the best ones!

Supports Phenom II X6 in case that you want to upgrade later. Also supports SATA3.0 and Max 16GB DDR3 Ram.

Do not buy Seagaste, they are going to be sold to another company soon (probably to Western Digital) i would preffer some Western Digital Caviar Black in RAID0

Use a Corsair 550 Power Supply, that is a damm cheap little BEAST.