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Full Enchant Skill like Retail L2

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 11:54 pm
by rigid
why L2J don't commit Full Enchant Skill like Retail L2 ?
i think this is good, because too many HIGH RATES PVP SERVER using L2J :D
i search in this forum and found some people share enchant skill tree
but isn't complete yet :(

Re: Full Enchant Skill like Retail L2

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 9:24 am
by Probe
if it isn't committed, it's NOT DONE .
provide retail information so devs can get it done or stop whining :evil:

Re: Full Enchant Skill like Retail L2

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 11:49 am
by kain13
NOT DONE - because l2j not want to do it.
3-proff. still missing from C4, the past 2 years have passed, and l2j not done it, no one 3-proff skills.
All information in client, many other teams have already made 3-proff skills (all that need just take and remake), so that l2j just do not want to do.
As for "retail like" - l2j does not like off, example of this is intentionally altered a chance enchant skills, like janiii say:
janiii wrote: the enchant chances were changed, because they were too high and server admins complained that players has too high enchanted skills.
So l2j makes the server under a, not as an official server. //and this is bad

I also don't understand why the l2j don't commit Enchant Skill :(
I think Enchant Skill more important even than the new system like Hellbound etc.
I think developers must first finalize the important things missing from C4 and then refine all other new things.

p.s This is what I think, so do not tell me "do it yourself", I know that l2j make a lot of important work and they do a good job.

Re: Full Enchant Skill like Retail L2

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 1:49 pm
by _DS_
Not a feature request, just useless crying. Moved to discussions.

Re: Full Enchant Skill like Retail L2

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 3:21 pm
by lion
kain13 wrote:NOT DONE - because l2j not want to do it.
may be you can start work on it and contribute for l2j?
kain13 wrote: I also don't understand why the l2j don't commit Enchant Skill :(
you can do enchant skill for all route and contribute it on forum, if it works - after test it can be commited
kain13 wrote:so do not tell me "do it yourself"
than don't write post like this on forum

Re: Full Enchant Skill like Retail L2

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 3:59 pm
by Intrepid
learn to use google there are many PUBLIC repositorys to get info from about skill enchants...if you cant use google you dont have any right to be blame l2j about why they dont implement it you cant even imagine in your wildest dreams how much work need to be done to handle a big project such as l2j :)

Re: Full Enchant Skill like Retail L2

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 4:48 pm
by lion
Intrepid wrote:learn to use google there are many PUBLIC repositorys to get info from about skill enchants..
then use this info for yourself, l2j use only retail info and don't want commit some stupid works

Re: Full Enchant Skill like Retail L2

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 5:13 pm
by Intrepid
lion wrote:
Intrepid wrote:learn to use google there are many PUBLIC repositorys to get info from about skill enchants..
then use this info for yourself, l2j use only retail info and don't want commit some stupid works
it was for the topic author anyway :D i know l2j commit only from retail info :D

Re: Full Enchant Skill like Retail L2

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 6:44 pm
by rigid
lion wrote:
Intrepid wrote:learn to use google there are many PUBLIC repositorys to get info from about skill enchants..
then use this info for yourself, l2j use only retail info and don't want commit some stupid works
ok my bro :D

Re: Full Enchant Skill like Retail L2

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 6:44 pm
by ThePhoenixBird
How many players that has a 3rd profession on the retail servers you know? How many of them would like to help to L2j to finish the 3rd class skills? How many of them have ENTIRE DAYS to spend making tests of damage/effects?

After answering that, then you may want to say otherwise about if we "dont want to" do stuff or "we cant at this moment" do stuff.

If you need badly 3rd class skills use an unbalanced custom pack that should be around or just wait patiently like the others for a retail like work.

You cant say that L2j work isnt retail like if you havent played on the retail server.

Re: Full Enchant Skill like Retail L2

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 7:36 pm
by kain13
lion wrote:then use this info for yourself, l2j use only retail info and don't want commit some stupid works
Read carefully quote janiii.
janiii wrote: the enchant chances were changed, because they were too high and server admins complained that players has too high enchanted skills.
So don't tell me that l2j use only retail info. :twisted:
lion wrote:than don't write post like this on forum
Don't tell me what post I can write. I have not violate any rules. This is "Server Discussion" and like I say this is my think, you can ignored it.

Re: Full Enchant Skill like Retail L2

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 8:08 pm
by _DS_
kain13 wrote:So don't tell me that l2j use only retail info. :twisted:
Just LOL :)

Imagine what devs have different sources of the retail info. Sometimes some of them proven to be incorrect. And sometimes even things changes on retail too :D

Re: Full Enchant Skill like Retail L2

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 9:03 pm
by ThePhoenixBird
_DS_ wrote:
kain13 wrote:So don't tell me that l2j use only retail info. :twisted:
Just LOL :)

Imagine what devs have different sources of the retail info. Sometimes some of them proven to be incorrect. And sometimes even things changes on retail too :D
Looks like some people dont know what data extrapolation and interpolation means.

If you can provide more accurate value, then commit them, publish a contribution, and if your values are convincing enough they will be commited.

Sometimes people just bitch about our work, but they dont do anything to make it better or fix it, even when they get this for free.
Never look a gift horse in the mouth

Re: Full Enchant Skill like Retail L2

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 3:02 am
by badboy29
Well I can share that, but I just have to Gracia Final and I do not know if it's with the correct status, maybe someone can check it :D

Re: Full Enchant Skill like Retail L2

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 12:44 pm
by pokiokio
Maybe if someone that has a...(you know what server) with the Epilogue update could give us some info? Because that kind of servers should have all the info needed...