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HB Client with Latest Build + Seeking Tutors

Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 6:14 am
by goodtimeshaxor
Hi all, I'm new here but old in the Off scene:

So, I'm comtemplating whether or not to switch from off to J and wanted to check it out before having to recode all my custom work on my server. Was wondering if it's possible to allow Hellbount Client connections to a the latest Gracia build.

Also, is there anyone here who wouldn't mind showing me the ropes around the files? I've worked extensively with L2Off (extender files, hooking, etc, not just scripts) but would like to make the switch. If there's anyone willing to help me out I would be ecstatic and your help would give a huge boost to my learning speed.

Thanks in advance to all replies
Apologies to any staff members for breaking any rules if I have done so =)

Re: HB Client with Latest Build + Seeking Tutors

Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 6:27 am
by JIV
You say you are Admin (dev?) of L2off server but you missing even basic knowledge of L2 (how it work). So read a wiki (or forum) from basic and make your decision.

Re: HB Client with Latest Build + Seeking Tutors

Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 6:48 am
by goodtimeshaxor
JIV, despite your criticism, I am hoping there are more helpful and welcoming people around. No offense to you but your response was cold and unwelcoming. Insulting someone's knowledge based on a history of experiences with new "developers" who claim to be pro cannot sum up all situations, including this one. Please do not make such quick and misinformed assumptions with me.

If anyone else is willing to be helpful, let me know. Otherwise I don't need useless post bumps. Thanks

Re: HB Client with Latest Build + Seeking Tutors

Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 6:51 am
by janiii
no, he did not criticise you. he only wants you to read a little bit about l2j. check l2jserver.com page and the wiki, so that you can see what all you need to run a server, what knowledge you need, etc. also check forum, you may find also some tutorials or custom scripts.

mostly you need to understand mysql, java, python/jython, xml, svn respository, diff and applying patches. you dont need all the knowledge, but it is good to have at least basics to understand what is going on in l2j.

for first you can try just with nightly build and check wiki for installing the server. if you want to dig deeper, download sources from svn and check custom contributions forum section.

Re: HB Client with Latest Build + Seeking Tutors

Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 6:51 am
by JIV
my asnwer was based on your question, which is not very clever. If it insult you, im sorry but you must understand l2j is totally different so you must start from basic.

Re: HB Client with Latest Build + Seeking Tutors

Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 7:24 am
by goodtimeshaxor
Thanks for the responses. I apologize to you JIV if I insulted you in my recent post.

MySQL - check (rather use MSSQL though)
Java - check
Python - check
XML - check
SVN - check

I only briefly scanned through the wiki before posting but I'll read through it thoroughly now. Just to let you know, I don't plan on running a retail-like L2 server. My current server is extremely modified and probably the most modified L2Off server at the moment. I just hope J is stable enough and that the rumors about J are false. We'll see =)


------EDIT------
Checked the entire Wiki and the information there is extremely basic. I'm updating my files to the current build and will take a poke around the source. I didn't find any information about whether I can run HB clients on the latest build or not.

Re: HB Client with Latest Build + Seeking Tutors

Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 7:41 am
by LasTravel
Why HB client? If you want epilogue server use epilogue client :S

Re: HB Client with Latest Build + Seeking Tutors

Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 7:43 am
by goodtimeshaxor
I believe that recent revisions contain code that older Client revisions do not. I'm sure Epilogue source files contain more code than the latest HB source files and therefore would like to start with a "better" and more "complete" source. I have lots of client modifications for HB that cannot be converted to Epilogue and it would be best if I could use the latest revision but use the HB client.

Re: HB Client with Latest Build + Seeking Tutors

Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 8:05 am
by goodtimeshaxor
Looks like I'll have to redo all my scripts and everything from scratch (except for client side stuff). This will take a while -_-

Re: HB Client with Latest Build + Seeking Tutors

Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 8:06 am
by janiii
sorry, no, you cannot use hb client with latest l2j version because of the packet structure changes. i mean, you could connect, but it would be impossible to play (inventory wrong shown, skills not shown, etc).

Re: HB Client with Latest Build + Seeking Tutors

Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 2:28 pm
by Probe
there is, however, a build for Hellbound clients, but it's very old and much more incomplete:
http://l2jserver.com/svn/branches/L2_GameServer_T1.5/

Re: HB Client with Latest Build + Seeking Tutors

Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 3:51 pm
by goodtimeshaxor
I'm not familiar with the structure of L2J yet but I'm sure it's possible to revert the packet structures back to HB, is it not? I would probably need help from someone more experienced and knowledgeable with J but in theory this is possible, no?

Re: HB Client with Latest Build + Seeking Tutors

Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 4:03 pm
by JIV
in theory yes, but it will be hard find someone willing to do it.