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Eclipse Vs. Tortoise SVN, Apache Ant and Notepad++

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 10:18 pm
by JMD
I am wondering what are the advantages of using eclipse over the other programs i mentioned in the title? Talking from my experience Eclipse is slow as hell, using tortoise and the other stuff saved me a lot of time.

Re: Eclipse Vs. Tortoise SVN, Apache Ant and Notepad++

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 11:01 pm
by MELERIX
Depend of the user...

for example I prefer Eclipse, because I have "all that I need" in a only one application ;)

Re: Eclipse Vs. Tortoise SVN, Apache Ant and Notepad++

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 5:21 am
by janiii
what i use on eclipse: syntax highlighting, code completion (the best thing among others), compile error showing before building the server all again (typos, wrong method call, wrong code structure at all, missing imports in java code), java code check in datapack with gameserver sources, imports organization, renaming, code following / call hierarchy / class hierarchy, code format, file search, svn synchronize, svn merge editor, create patch (possibility also to clipboard), apply patch from clipboard, debug mode, plugins such as pmd/findbugs, ....

Re: Eclipse Vs. Tortoise SVN, Apache Ant and Notepad++

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 9:05 am
by denser
i use Eclipse for all exept svn - for SVN i use tortoise: much more comfortable merging if core modified

Re: Eclipse Vs. Tortoise SVN, Apache Ant and Notepad++

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 9:10 am
by janiii
denser wrote:i use Eclipse for all except svn - for SVN i use tortoise: much more comfortable merging if core modified
in eclipse you should use team synchronize to check for updates, not to do an update if you have modified core. then eclipse is much more better to merge conflicts than tortoise.

Re: Eclipse Vs. Tortoise SVN, Apache Ant and Notepad++

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 9:12 am
by denser
janiii wrote: in eclipse you should use team synchronize to check for updates, not to do an update if you have modified core. then eclipse is much more better to merge conflicts than tortoise.
may be you re right...but i not familiar with this part. i apply patches via eclipse :) but create and update via tortoise

Re: Eclipse Vs. Tortoise SVN, Apache Ant and Notepad++

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 10:31 am
by jurchiks
just right-click->team>synchronize with repository
try it when a new changeset comes out

Re: Eclipse Vs. Tortoise SVN, Apache Ant and Notepad++

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 12:38 pm
by denser
jurchiks wrote:just right-click->team>synchronize with repository
try it when a new changeset comes out
i knew this, thx. but it hard to read logs of updates, not exact know how to take revisions log for 1 file etc..
in tortoise it done very nice :)

Re: Eclipse Vs. Tortoise SVN, Apache Ant and Notepad++

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 12:40 pm
by jurchiks
right-click the file>team>show revision graph?

Re: Eclipse Vs. Tortoise SVN, Apache Ant and Notepad++

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 12:43 pm
by denser
graph it is graphics? i mean numbers of revisions where file was touched...revision graph in tortoise give me graphical view..

Re: Eclipse Vs. Tortoise SVN, Apache Ant and Notepad++

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 12:55 pm
by jurchiks
duh, why don't you try it first and then ask questions? takes 10 seconds...

Re: Eclipse Vs. Tortoise SVN, Apache Ant and Notepad++

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 2:51 pm
by poltomb
Small projects -> Notepad++, Ant/Maven, SVN (command line).

Large projects -> Eclipse, mainly for it's code tracing abilities such as: type and call hierarchies, field location (really helpful when dealing with protected fields in sub classes), and over all compile error highlighting.

Re: Eclipse Vs. Tortoise SVN, Apache Ant and Notepad++

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 5:17 pm
by Szponiasty
Yup. Eclipse has very poor build-in diff (even other methods order can force you to manually check almost everything). I'm using one in NetBeans 6.9. Didn't saw better diff tool anywhere there yet. Well I saw one - in Delphi 2010 Pro, but it's a commercial IDE and compiller and it costed me a lot, so I won't compare these.

Re: Eclipse Vs. Tortoise SVN, Apache Ant and Notepad++

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 5:38 pm
by denser
jurchiks wrote:duh, why don't you try it first and then ask questions? takes 10 seconds...
sor dude) but was at work and cant run eclipse :) but try it as far as possible