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lisike
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Overpowered archers

Post by lisike »

Hey!

On my server the archers are OP. How to make them weaker? Vesper+10 dagger +17 skills can kill an S grade (sux) archer lol.

My server is l2j garcia final.

Thank you
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Re: Overpowered archers

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If you dont know how to modify skills ... then I dont think you should even have a server. Or you should learn fast lol.
Go in the data/stats/skills folder and edit the skills for the archer classes. Set higher power and stats for some skills and you should be fine.
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Re: Overpowered archers

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I know how to modify skills. But.. archers are faster than daggers, but if I modify passive runspeed skill, dagger will be slower too. And archers usually don't use skills!
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Re: Overpowered archers

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check the passive skills of archers :s
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Re: Overpowered archers

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momo61 wrote:check the passive skills of archers :s
I reduced bow mastery p.atk, restarted the server, and nothing changed in the game. why ? lol
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Re: Overpowered archers

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uhhh... it should have changed. Maybe you forgot to save the XML file? o.o
Maybe you didnt modify it enough to be felt ingame ?
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Re: Overpowered archers

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momo61 wrote:uhhh... it should have changed. Maybe you forgot to save the XML file? o.o
Maybe you didnt modify it enough to be felt ingame ?
I saved :) And I reduced like -200 p.atk :D So it must be felt.

Btw what does it mean: <add order="0x30" stat="pAtk" val="#pAtk"> ?
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Re: Overpowered archers

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follow the colors m8. Btw, this post should be in legacy server support.

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	<skill id="208" levels="52" name="Bow Mastery" enchantLevels1="30">		<table name="#pAtk"> [color=#FF0000]10.3 11.4 27.6 32.8 35.6 38.6 45.2 48.9 52.7 61.1 65.6 70.4 80.9 86.5 92.4 105.1 111.9 178.8 189.9 201.4 213.5 226 239.1 252.7 266.7 281.3 296.4 311.9 328 344.5 361.6 379.1 397 415.4 434.3 453.5 473.2 493.1 513.5 534.2 555.1 576.3 597.8 619.4 641.2 663.1 685 707.1 729.1 751 772.9 794.6[/color] </table>		<table name="#ench1pAtk"> [color=#0000FF]822 829 835 842 848 855 861 867 874 880 887 893 900 906 913 919 926 932 939 945 952 958 965 971 977 984 990 997 1003 1010[/color] </table>		<set name="target" val="TARGET_SELF" />		<set name="skillType" val="BUFF" />		<set name="operateType" val="OP_PASSIVE" />		<for>			<add order="0x40" stat="pAtk" val="[color=#FF0000]#pAtk[/color]">				<using kind="Bow" />			</add>		</for>		<enchant1for>			<add order="0x40" stat="pAtk" val="[color=#0040FF]#ench1pAtk[/color]">				<using kind="Bow" />			</add>		</enchant1for>	</skill>
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Re: Overpowered archers

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momo61 wrote:follow the colors m8. Btw, this post should be in legacy server support.

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	<skill id="208" levels="52" name="Bow Mastery" enchantLevels1="30">		<table name="#pAtk"> [color=#FF0000]10.3 11.4 27.6 32.8 35.6 38.6 45.2 48.9 52.7 61.1 65.6 70.4 80.9 86.5 92.4 105.1 111.9 178.8 189.9 201.4 213.5 226 239.1 252.7 266.7 281.3 296.4 311.9 328 344.5 361.6 379.1 397 415.4 434.3 453.5 473.2 493.1 513.5 534.2 555.1 576.3 597.8 619.4 641.2 663.1 685 707.1 729.1 751 772.9 794.6[/color] </table>		<table name="#ench1pAtk"> [color=#0000FF]822 829 835 842 848 855 861 867 874 880 887 893 900 906 913 919 926 932 939 945 952 958 965 971 977 984 990 997 1003 1010[/color] </table>		<set name="target" val="TARGET_SELF" />		<set name="skillType" val="BUFF" />		<set name="operateType" val="OP_PASSIVE" />		<for>			<add order="0x40" stat="pAtk" val="[color=#FF0000]#pAtk[/color]">				<using kind="Bow" />			</add>		</for>		<enchant1for>			<add order="0x40" stat="pAtk" val="[color=#0040FF]#ench1pAtk[/color]">				<using kind="Bow" />			</add>		</enchant1for>	</skill>

Yes I did the same. Look my edited p.atk:

<table name="#pAtk"> 10.3 11.4 27.6 32.8 35.6 38.6 45.2 48.9 52.7 61.1 65.6 70.4 80.9 86.5 92.4 105.1 111.9 178.8 189.9 201.4 213.5 226 239.1 252.7 266.7 281.3 296.4 311.9 328 344.5 361.6 379.1 397 415.4 434.3 453.5 473.2 493.1 503.5 504.2 515.1 526.3 537.8 549.4 551.2 553.1 561 570.1 578.1 582 599.9 615.6 </table>
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Re: Overpowered archers

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lisike wrote:
momo61 wrote:follow the colors m8. Btw, this post should be in legacy server support.

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	<skill id="208" levels="52" name="Bow Mastery" enchantLevels1="30">		<table name="#pAtk"> [color=#FF0000]10.3 11.4 27.6 32.8 35.6 38.6 45.2 48.9 52.7 61.1 65.6 70.4 80.9 86.5 92.4 105.1 111.9 178.8 189.9 201.4 213.5 226 239.1 252.7 266.7 281.3 296.4 311.9 328 344.5 361.6 379.1 397 415.4 434.3 453.5 473.2 493.1 513.5 534.2 555.1 576.3 597.8 619.4 641.2 663.1 685 707.1 729.1 751 772.9 794.6[/color] </table>		<table name="#ench1pAtk"> [color=#0000FF]822 829 835 842 848 855 861 867 874 880 887 893 900 906 913 919 926 932 939 945 952 958 965 971 977 984 990 997 1003 1010[/color] </table>		<set name="target" val="TARGET_SELF" />		<set name="skillType" val="BUFF" />		<set name="operateType" val="OP_PASSIVE" />		<for>			<add order="0x40" stat="pAtk" val="[color=#FF0000]#pAtk[/color]">				<using kind="Bow" />			</add>		</for>		<enchant1for>			<add order="0x40" stat="pAtk" val="[color=#0040FF]#ench1pAtk[/color]">				<using kind="Bow" />			</add>		</enchant1for>	</skill>

Yes I did the same. Look my edited p.atk:

<table name="#pAtk"> 10.3 11.4 27.6 32.8 35.6 38.6 45.2 48.9 52.7 61.1 65.6 70.4 80.9 86.5 92.4 105.1 111.9 178.8 189.9 201.4 213.5 226 239.1 252.7 266.7 281.3 296.4 311.9 328 344.5 361.6 379.1 397 415.4 434.3 453.5 473.2 493.1 503.5 504.2 515.1 526.3 537.8 549.4 551.2 553.1 561 570.1 578.1 582 599.9 615.6 </table>
maybe the char you are using has +++ skills. So change the ench1patk table too.
Also, try lowering it more than just 200 p.atk
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Re: Overpowered archers

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Nope, on my char no ++ on skill :D And I also edited enchant skills :S
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Re: Overpowered archers

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just curious how much time you got at buffs/dances?
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Re: Overpowered archers

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dont think this is going to solve your problem at all. nerf their patk too much then no one will play them. and you'll end up with a nuker/tank/dagger server and more problems.

maybe you should lower counter dash effect. its +40 run spd. try +20. should be no reason why a dagger with +17 skills in vesper +10 can't kill an s-grade archer. unless they using hvy and dont evade anythin. also dont understand the skill shadow step
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Re: Overpowered archers

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On high rate servers, weird things happens when you have overechanted equipment and skills, the skill rates skyrocket, also GOOD players with GOOD equipment can beat BAD players with GOOD equipment. So GOOD players with OVERENCHANTED equipment can beat GOOD players with GOOD equipment.

I dont see any problem with this, L2j isnt being developed with a high rate balance in mid, a couple years ago the Daggers were too damm nerfed, Archers are SLOWER than daggers, of course if you have a full Atk.Speed set +Bonuses +Boss Jewels +AllInOneBuffs +OverEchanted equipment you can beat the hell out of a critical on any player shooting arrows like a machinegun.

Daggers on the other hand with that insane At.Speed that they can deal hell a lot of DPS (Damage Per Second) just like Tyrants.
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Re: Overpowered archers

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Well i had same problem before but now after lower max enchant to +16,make enchants very hard to obtain change buff slot to retail like my server is pertty balanced
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THIS GAME WAS NOT DESIGNED FOR ALL PLAYERS TO BE RUNNING AROUND IN END GAME ARMOR AND WEAPONS WITH FULL BUFFS AND +16 OR HIGHER GEAR.

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There's a reason that Divine Inspiration manuals aren't the easiest thing to get.
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There's a reason skills cost SP to learn (because for those last skills, they expect you to really work your ass off for them).

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