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Gracia Epilogue Stupidities

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 12:12 am
by momo61
Hello guys,

Im opening this topic to talk about some of NCz0ft's stupid features in their latest version of Lineage 2, the Epilogue.

There are some features, that simply "scare" me because they kill the spirit of Lineage 2. The one that worries me personally the most is the "mailing" feature. You can actually start sending items from one peace zone to another peace zone. That's hell-a-scary. So dear L2J Devs, make sure you know what you're implementing and make it safe from packet hacking.

Another feature which is scary is the "re-buy" feature. Yes, you can actually buy back items you intentionally or accidentally sold to NPCs. I guess that's going to be a scary feature for L2J too. So, you better have a closer look on that too.

Oh, I almost forgot about the skill-transfer feature. Wow, that's a really scary one. Would be bad if we would start seeing tanks with bishop heal, so make sure that's secure too.

Re: Gracia Epilogue Stupidities

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 1:34 am
by Pere
These features shouldn't create new items, just store existing ones in the DB as ATTACHED or SOLD, and then modify its owner or location depending on the player actions.
About the skill transfer, I don't know what do you mean. Enchanting?

Re: Gracia Epilogue Stupidities

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 7:35 am
by Probe
refund system has nothing to do with db, it resets on log out, so why store it?
as for the skill transfer system I already made it in a secure way, working great :)

Re: Gracia Epilogue Stupidities

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 9:43 am
by Pere
Probe wrote:refund system has nothing to do with db, it resets on log out
Didn't know ^^ thx

Re: Gracia Epilogue Stupidities

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 10:44 pm
by Evilus
scary xD, nothing to worry about :P

Re: Gracia Epilogue Stupidities

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:06 am
by momo61
I just hope there's a feature to disable those and more new features since they change the gameplay behaviour considerably.

Re: Gracia Epilogue Stupidities

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 10:31 am
by Aikimaniac
Items sold cannot be re-purchased after disconnection, quit, or character select. so in case of server crash there is no need to store them as well

Re: Gracia Epilogue Stupidities

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 2:12 pm
by Probe
momo61 wrote:I just hope there's a feature to disable those and more new features since they change the gameplay behaviour considerably.
other than skill transfer what would you possibly want to disable?
besides skill transfer is JUST FOR HEALERS, so what if they get some extra HEALER skills?

Re: Gracia Epilogue Stupidities

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 5:55 am
by Fogotend69
Oh, I almost forgot about the skill-transfer feature. Wow, that's a really scary one. Would be bad if we would start seeing tanks with bishop heal, so make sure that's secure too.
FUCK GRACIA MAN! IS FAILED ...... L2 GOING TO HELL

TANKS IS ALRDY OVERPOWERD SO..... X0A0X0A0XA0XA0

NUKER --> TANK = 250 DMG
TANK --> NUKER = 700+ (2/3 CRITCAL) X0-0AQ0X0AX X0AA0X MOUAHAHAH


FUCK OFF TANKS ..... I HATE L2 ... X0A0X0A ALL PVP SERVERS ARE FULL WITH TANKS 0X00X0AX KIDS ...STIUPEDS ....

SOZ FOR ENGLISH BUT THIS TRUE ..... ELEMNTAL SYSTEM FUCK GAME!

IM TALK ABOUT JAVA SERVERS , OFF IDK!

Re: Gracia Epilogue Stupidities

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 6:42 am
by momo61
Fogotend69 wrote:
Oh, I almost forgot about the skill-transfer feature. Wow, that's a really scary one. Would be bad if we would start seeing tanks with bishop heal, so make sure that's secure too.
FUCK GRACIA MAN! IS FAILED ...... L2 GOING TO HELL

TANKS IS ALRDY OVERPOWERD SO..... X0A0X0A0XA0XA0

NUKER --> TANK = 250 DMG
TANK --> NUKER = 700+ (2/3 CRITCAL) X0-0AQ0X0AX X0AA0X MOUAHAHAH


FUCK OFF TANKS ..... I HATE L2 ... X0A0X0A ALL PVP SERVERS ARE FULL WITH TANKS 0X00X0AX KIDS ...STIUPEDS ....

SOZ FOR ENGLISH BUT THIS TRUE ..... ELEMNTAL SYSTEM FUCK GAME!

IM TALK ABOUT JAVA SERVERS , OFF IDK!
Retarded ^^

Re: Gracia Epilogue Stupidities

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 9:14 am
by Probe
ONLY EVA SAINT, CARDINAL, AND SHILLIEN SAINT CAN LEARN SKILLS VIA SKILL-TRANSFER

is that so hard to understand?
and there's a very simple way to make this unexploitable.

Re: Gracia Epilogue Stupidities

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 12:34 pm
by Lineage
momo61 wrote:
Fogotend69 wrote:
Oh, I almost forgot about the skill-transfer feature. Wow, that's a really scary one. Would be bad if we would start seeing tanks with bishop heal, so make sure that's secure too.
FUCK GRACIA MAN! IS FAILED ...... L2 GOING TO HELL

TANKS IS ALRDY OVERPOWERD SO..... X0A0X0A0XA0XA0

NUKER --> TANK = 250 DMG
TANK --> NUKER = 700+ (2/3 CRITCAL) X0-0AQ0X0AX X0AA0X MOUAHAHAH


FUCK OFF TANKS ..... I HATE L2 ... X0A0X0A ALL PVP SERVERS ARE FULL WITH TANKS 0X00X0AX KIDS ...STIUPEDS ....

SOZ FOR ENGLISH BUT THIS TRUE ..... ELEMNTAL SYSTEM FUCK GAME!

IM TALK ABOUT JAVA SERVERS , OFF IDK!
Retarded ^^
He has a point although his way of expressing it is retarded. Tanks are indeed overpowered in pretty much most servers.

Re: Gracia Epilogue Stupidities

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 12:38 pm
by blacksea
coz u have 7 hour buffs dances&songs of course...

Re: Gracia Epilogue Stupidities

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 2:24 pm
by Vapulabe
Yes.. so many server have (nearly) unlimited number of buff and extend the length of buffs/dances/... making the buffer class a rather useless one (Buffer NPC do the job very well)

By changing buff durations, the game balance is broken... These stupid admins forget that NCZ0ft took many hours testing and adjusting the skills to keep the balance...

Re: Gracia Epilogue Stupidities

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 3:11 pm
by Copyleft

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Blue Talisman – Blue Cancel:    With fixed chance, cancels the buffs of nearby enemies upon use.Blue Talisman – Buff Steal:    With fixed chance, steal the target's buffs upon use.